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Sri kisore das [Visitor] in response to: Paul: the Deceptive Disciple

Sri kisore das [Visitor] — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:27:25 +0000

wow!

This is a new Da Vinci code movie.

Dear Prabhu, I am really impressed by your research and experience in this.

I am a small filmmaker in NYC/Ohio. Do you want to create some kind of documentary on the life of paul where we can interview some of these people (who live)?

How did you come to know of these things?

what is your background? Please elaborate your glories.

Thank you so much for being there.

I feel relieved.

Your servant
Sri kisore das

Abhay Charan das [Visitor] in response to: Cow Protection

Abhay Charan das [Visitor] — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:26:54 +0000

My Dear Mataji,

This is a nice article on vegetarianism but Srila Prabhupada never asked anyone to become vegans. The very fact that cow is one of the seven mothers is because we consume cow milk. Yasoda mata is churning butter herself so that she can offer it to "Gopal". Vedically 1 cow and a small piece of land is what one needs to live a comfortable life. So no where Scriptures is veganisim promoted.

We have to follow acharyas and not concoct something new, Srila Prabhupada took milk (even in America). Srila Prabhupada wanted cow protection and people offer milk to Lord Sri Krishna. How can we deny Krishna what he likes the most, Cow's milk and Cow's Milk products.

Abhay Charan das

Eric [Visitor] in response to: Paul: the Deceptive Disciple

Eric [Visitor] — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 06:29:48 +0000

Paul was more of a Judas than Judas.

Thank you for posting this.

vasumurti [Member] in response to: Paul: the Deceptive Disciple

vasumurti [Member] — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 04:07:38 +0000

Jesus told his disciples to ALWAYS "pray without ceasing" (Luke 21:36), and Paul repeated these words to the gentiles (I Thessalonians 5:17). However, this is the only point on which Jesus and Paul agree.? Paul taught a completely different theology from that of Jesus and the original apostles.

Jesus repeatedly spoke of God's tender care for the nonhuman creation (Matthew 6:26-30, 10:29-31; Luke 12:6-7, 24-28). Paul, on the other hand, in I Corinthians 9:9-10, asked scornfully, "Does God take care for oxen?" when referring to one of the commandments in Mosaic Law calling for the humane treatment of animals.

Christians think they are no longer under Mosaic Law, because Paul referred to his background as a former Pharisee and previous adherence to Mosaic Law (with its dietary laws and commandments calling for the humane treatment of animals) as "so much garbage." (Philippians 3:4-8)

Nothing in the synoptic gospels suggests a break with Judaism. Jesus was called "Rabbi," meaning "Master" or "Teacher," 42 times in the gospels. Jesus' ministry was a rabbinic one. He went to the synagogue (Matthew 12:9), taught in the synagogues (Matthew 4:23, 13:54; Mark 1:39), expressed concern for Jairus, "one of the rulers of the synagogue" (Mark 5:36) and it "was his custom" to go to the synagogue (Luke 4:16).

Jesus himself said, "Do not suppose I have come to abolish the Law and the prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill...till heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or tittle pass from the Law till all is fulfilled. Whoever, therefore, breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven...unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:17-20)

Jesus also upheld the Torah in Luke 16:17: "And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for the smallest portion of the Law to become invalid."

Nor do these words refer merely to the Ten Commandments. Jesus meant the entire Torah: 613 commandments. When a man asked Jesus what he must do to inherit eternal life, Jesus replied, "You know the commandments." He quoted not just the Ten Commandments, but a commandment from Leviticus 19:13 as well: "Do not defraud." (Mark 10:17-22)

Jesus' disciples were once accused by the scribes and Pharisees of violating rabbinical tradition (Matthew 15:1-2; Mark 7:5), but not biblical law. Jesus never says anywhere in the entire New Testament that the Law is abolished; this was Paul's theology.

Sometimes Christians cite Matthew 7:12, where Jesus says "Do unto others..." and this "covers" the Law and the prophets. But Jesus was merely repeating in the positive what Rabbi Hillel taught a generation earlier. No one took Hillel's words to mean the Law had been abolished--why should we assume this of Jesus?

If Jesus really did come to abolish the Law and the prophets, Simon (Peter) would not have resisted a divine command to kill and eat both "clean" and "unclean" animals (Acts 10), nor would there have been a debate in the early church as to what extent the gentiles were to observe Mosaic Law (Acts 15). When Paul visited the church at Jerusalem, James and the elders told him all its members were "zealous for the Law," and they were worried because they heard rumors Paul was preaching against Mosaic Law (Acts 21). None of these events would have happened had Jesus really come to abolish the Law and the prophets.

Paul says if anyone has confidence in the Law, "I am ahead of him."

Would that mean Paul places himself ahead of Jesus, who said he did not come to abolish the Law and the prophets? Would that mean Paul places himself ahead of Jesus, who said whoever sets aside even the least of the Law's demands shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:17-19)?

Would that mean Paul places himself ahead of Jesus, who taught that following the commandments of God is the only way to eternal life (Mark 10:17-22)? Would that mean Paul places himself ahead of Jesus who said that it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for the smallest portion of the Law to become invalid (Luke 16:17)?

Paul may have regarded the Law as "so much garbage," but it should be obvious JESUS DIDN'T THINK THE LAW WAS "GARBAGE"!

In The Story of Christian Origins, secular scholar Dr. Martin A. Larson notes further that Paul declares that his followers may even eat food offered to pagan idols (contradicting the resurrected Jesus in Revelation 2:14,20). Whereas Jesus honored women and found in them his most devoted followers, Paul never tires of proclaiming their inferiority.

Christians believe in Paul, not Jesus. Bertrand Russell called Paul the "inventor" of Christianity.

Your servant,

---Vasu
vasumurti@netscape.net

chris [Visitor] in response to: Paul: the Deceptive Disciple

chris [Visitor] — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:54:30 +0000

Hare Krsna

Very interesting article on the straying of Paul's teachings from the essence of Christ.

Being uninformed on the specifics, I was wondering if you could give me a quick outline or point me in the right direction of finding out specifically the differences between Paul's teachings and the teachings of Christ.

Thank you!

Pandu das [Visitor] in response to: Refuting 'Not Even Close'

Pandu das [Visitor] — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:59:00 +0000

Below the big "Hare Krishna" painted on the back of my car is a sticker that says, "A hamburger stops a beating heart," with imagery similar to the analogous anti-abortion sticker.

kamdhenu Kutumbkam [Visitor] in response to: Cow Protection

kamdhenu Kutumbkam [Visitor] — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:26:11 +0000

Dear, Sir-Madam.
We runs Kamdhenu Kutumbkam in Amravati, center India. Our motto is to save Indian breed Cow ,Farmer & Farming land. Somebody may thinks without cow human life can pass very comfortably.But it is not true,now-a-days in human society facing so many problems like, incurable dangerous deices cancer, heart fail ,brain tumors,kidney fail,mental deices many many....& also No Love for family,nation,friends, society, & no satisfactions in life. Everybody is seeking for peace,happiness& love.In society founds so much money but their is No......
We have a history of ancient India, our people use to do only cow-keeping with organic-farming. At that time they had good health , prosperity, happy life, Love etc....Even emperor Sikandar was shock & surprised at that time. and can not understand.
We thinks Only Cow can bring peace ,prosperity , Happiness & Good health by organic farming the human society. One Cow gives in the year 230 kg. of methane Gas,Organic fertilizers for 3-4 acrs. land.& also 400-1200 liters of milk . But unfortunately every day in India over 60,000 cows get kills . In future in 2015 will found No Indian Breed cow on land of India . You will find Cow only in picture.
So we beg you ' Please Save INDIAN breed Cow ' This is the only solution , time left.If any one not come forward such Innocent cow will be finish. Please help us to save cow. We been studying cow & farmer from last 16 years . WE have many ideas to save our native breed . Ride now breed fully contaminated , we have improve our breed by using pure breed Bulls. & also spread massage to use cow products in society . Then Cow can be saved..................
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Sankirtana devi dasi [Visitor] in response to: Cow Protection

Sankirtana devi dasi [Visitor] — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:39:58 +0000

I too must diagree with you on your saying that Lord Krsna loves the cows, not the milk. Milk and milk products are very prominent in the descriptions of what Krsna eats. You are right in your statements that the modern day milk production is full of faults, but please don't throw out the baby with the bathwater here. Yes, we must establish proper cow protection, and as a result establish a healthy milk supply.
What may I ask is your alternative?? Soy and soy products?? If you google "dangers of soy" you will see why Prabhupada said on more than one occasion that soybeans are meant for animal consumption, and not human consumption. It is far more poisonous than even our modern day milk supply. Please take the time to research that.
By organic milk...it's readily available today even in most grocery stores...and offer it to Krsna and ENJOY!!